Here is an FYI for all the dedicated axis nuts...

I carried 2 BMs with axis locks on a 6 day river trip through Desolation Canyon on the Green River in Utah. A mini Grip and an old 806D2 AFCK.

I used the knives 3-4 times everyday. From trimming fingernails, opening lunch meat, cutting rope, trimming willows, hammering on my cooler, and weilding off a grizzly bear attack (used the mini grip for that). Just kidding on the bear attack--did see a bunch of Mtn Sheep though.

Anyways, both knives were in and out of the water all day everyday and both got surface rust here and there on the blades--nothing major and it will wear off with common use or a little polishing. The grip is 154CM and the 806 is D2.

So the real snag in this heavy use/rugged environment was with the axis locks. The axis locks on both knives got sticky and failed to release by day 3. I think the failure is partly due to the ecxcessive submegence in silty water and the gradual reduction in lubrication around the moving parts along with the exposure to fine sand from the beaches where we camped.

What ever the cause, it took 2 hands and plenty of pressure to get the axis to disengage. So the bottom line is, I'll be carring my TSEK with a liner lock on the next river trip.

well I guess if you put some mud on the axis will fail , if you don't clean it. and maybe it is easier to clean a liner lock, but with enough silty water could happen the same.

I'm going to take the 710 axis... to the jungle, and will let you know what happen with moisture, rain, mud and snakes...

I saw a video on you tube showing a Grip being thrown into sand and mud. This guy recovered the Grip and waved the knife in clean water. It worked like a charm afterwards. I would think you need to add some lube when he is back at home.

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Originally posted by Kenmade:
I saw a video on you tube showing a Grip being thrown into sand and mud. This guy recovered the Grip and waved the knife in clean water. It worked like a charm afterwards. I would think you need to add some lube when he is back at home.

hey do you have the link for the video?

I don't see this "failure to disengage". Strange.

I've experienced failure to lock due to debrie, but never failure to disengage.

i'm happy to know this tsek is used

Redka,

Here is one of them. There are others by the same person. The dog is also doing a good job with the sand.

Grip test pt. 1

Sounds like a case of horses for courses. There's a tool for every job and all that jazz. My (few) axis lock knives have never let me down cutting food, steaks for dinner etc., and I think for semi-hard use they're probably ok. Out in the field for heavy use I think you need a fixed blade or, some simple framelock that's easy to breakdown, clean and re-assemble... but you know all this.

What's so strange about it, when mechanical things get dirty with sand and grit they jam,
including the best designed firearms.
I used my stryker and grip for garden work and it got very dirty, I just rinsed it out with water and dried it and it was ready to go, just like anything mechanical with tight tolerances,
keep it cleaned and lubed and it wont fail.

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Originally posted by Kenmade:
The dog is also doing a good job with the sand.

Grip test pt. 1

I LOVE the dog in that video. As soon as he starts digging... the dog goes at it.